i think people should get an education. i don't think an education going to college are really the same thing anymore. >> don't you think you learned things in college aside from what you learned in the classrooms for a lot of people? >> i will tell you what i learned. i went to a catholic college for four years. you don't necessarily get laid if you go to college is what i learned. you know how much it cost for that lesson? >> you learned you shouldn't have gone to a catholic college. >> i think you learned a lot, right? >> no. really i didn't. it was a place to finish going through puberty without getting arrested or getting anyone pregnant. >> now your life is great. >> seems that is worth the money, isn't it? >> to keep me from getting someone pregnant, i don't know if you can put a price on that. >> that's what i am saying. >> bill you said most of the universities have denied student request that they divest. do the students have the balls to take the next step as the brave students of the 1980s did when they chained